Gendered tiels

[Morten]

I have what i pressume are brothers as i was told they are. But im not quite sure if they are both male. One of them are displaying what forums and sites are describing as 'mostly female behaviour but men do it sometimes'' He does that alot. My question is. Should i get them gendered ? I am more worried about inbreading and then having to deal with that afterwards! Do tiels inbread if they have the chance ? My tiels are from January 12th so they are not mature yet

 

[Cassandra.c87]

Yes cockatiels will inbreed. if you are referring to the behaviour such as hunching over with the tail usually slightly raised along with chirps there is a 99.99% chance it's female (I have yet to see/hear of a male do this myself). You can keep opposite genders together and work on discouraging this behavior by increasing night time to 12 hours of darkness, making sure there is nothing that can be seen as a nest (cosy/happy hut, boxes or even dark corners) and rearranging their cage often

 

[TikiMyn]

Can you post pictures? A lot of cockatiels can be sexed based on appearance
When to males bond, one can display female behavior in the couple.

 

[Morten]

Yes cockatiels will inbreed. if you are referring to the behaviour such as hunching over with the tail usually slightly raised along with chirps there is a 99.99% chance it's female (I have yet to see/hear of a male do this myself). You can keep opposite genders together and work on discouraging this behavior by increasing night time to 12 hours of darkness, making sure there is nothing that can be seen as a nest (cosy/happy hut, boxes or even dark corners) and rearranging their cage often

For the most part in talking about hanging or attempting to hang, upside down with wings spread and tail spread! I read that its mostly females who do that!

Can you post pictures? A lot of cockatiels can be sexed based on appearance
When to males bond, one can display female behavior in the couple.

I will post alotta pictures right now!
This is my tiels in their “bed” this is where they prefer sleeping
Hugo on the left (light beak, yellower face and brighter red cheeks) Eigil in the right (dark beak, darker yellow and darker red cheeks)

 

[TikiMyn]

They are so cute! They look like two girls, how old were they again? I thought they had their ‘big’ molt at 8 months(could be wrong) and then they should get their permanent colors. So if they are younger then that you can’t Tell yet, but if they already had that molt you have two very pretty girls!

 

[finchly]

@TikiMyn Molt anywhere from 8-12 months.

They are young yet. Color is still coming in. They look like girls to me too...Do they sing, or wolf whistle? In general the males sing and the females mainly chirp.

Let me see if I have a pic of my gray female...

@Monica @Tiel Feathers can you help?

 

[finchly]

Here is my female, Torrie.

 

[Morten]

@TikiMyn Molt anywhere from 8-12 months.

They are young yet. Color is still coming in. They look like girls to me too...Do they sing, or wolf whistle? In general the males sing and the females mainly chirp.

Let me see if I have a pic of my gray female...

@Monica @Tiel Feathers can you help?

They dont really sing, They mostly just chirp if they make any sounds. Or call for eachother if they are at the other end of the room


Just for clearyfication they are from January 12th. So they are not old enough to be even remotly mature

 

[Monica]

Do you know what colors their parents are?

Any chance of wing shots?


Sexing Cockatiels

 

[Morten]

this is Mama And Papa. Yellow head white body is mom, The other is dad. I will get pics of them, Do you need to see their wings spread out ?

 

[Morten]

Do you know what colors their parents are?

Any chance of wing shots?


Sexing Cockatiels

responce to above post, forgot to Quote

 

[Monica]

No need to quote! (at least not for me!)


So with the parents being as they are, the mother is a lutino and father is a normal grey. (as far as I can tell). There is no way to visually sex the offspring since all babies born will be normal greys. Males will also be split lutino.

If the parent's mutations were swapped, then all greys born would be males split lutino, and females would be lutino.




So the answer would be yes to those wing photos!

 

[Morten]

No need to quote! (at least not for me!)


So with the parents being as they are, the mother is a lutino and father is a normal grey. (as far as I can tell). There is no way to visually sex the offspring since all babies born will be normal greys. Males will also be split lutino.

If the parent's mutations were swapped, then all greys born would be males split lutino, and females would be lutino.




So the answer would be yes to those wing photos!

How do i take those pictures and spaare them the most ? Is it just grab them and spread their wings ? They are comfortable enough with hands so they dont bite if they get grabbed. They just dont wonna get grabbed

 

[Pip's Owner]

A picture of their wings would be helpful, but if they won't let you spread their wings, take a picture of their tail feathers. A female cockatiel's usually has stripes/bars on the underside of the tail. This would give you a good idea of the gender, although a DNA test would be the only way to know for sure.

 

[Morten]

Are wing pictures and their tail feathers a dead give away ?
Even when they are just like 3½ months old or so ?

 

[finchly]

I thought tail feathers were all the same until after molt.

 

[Monica]

Tanya, you are correct. A picture of tail feathers of chicks at a young age means nothing... I have a picture of a DNA sexed male lutino cockatiel under a black light - and he has all the female markings aka markings of a young cockatiel!


At this age, the only way to sex them is via their wings *OR* behavior. No, it's not really easy to get wing photos unless you have someone who could help you...

 

[finchly]

Morten, you could show us a video. If we could hear the sounds they make that might help.

 

[Morten]

Morten, you could show us a video. If we could hear the sounds they make that might help.

They dont really make that much sound. They are quiet for the most part! Honestly surprised at how quiet they are most the time ! I can try when i get off of work today

 

[finchly]

Haha lots of people would love to have quiet tiels!