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Urgent Discoloration of pionus beak very white?

Discussion in 'Bird Emergency Highway 911' started by AlexandreK, 4/13/18.

  1. AlexandreK

    AlexandreK Checking out the neighborhood

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    Hello.
    Just saved a pionus from an #$@# who had it in a small cage with a quaker.
    I dont know what age, gender or type of pionus it is.
    I think its a She. Will do an DNA test this week. She is very cuddly and has a fabulous appetite but hates fruits or vegies even tropican.

    She is quarantined far far away from my other birds.
    And i take a shower before i go to my other birds. (Not taking a chance).

    Her beak is white and she half plucked.
    She makes weird noises like a chicken laying eggs everytime im beside her.

    The problem. She is a mess. The pictures will make you understand.
    Now im not rich. So i cannot bring her to a vet.

    If anyone can give me advice on how to help her get better.
     

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  2. Garet

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    She likely needs to go to a vet. If you rescue her only to ignore her medical needs, what was the point of rescuing her?
    The people who had my budgie before me did just that, and by the time I got her, the damage was done. Even though I took her to a vet, she died because they rescued her and didn't give her the medical care she needed. If they had taken her to a vet, she might have lived a longer, healthier life.

    IMHO not taking this bird to a vet is downright cruel.
     
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  3. Eloy

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    My first reaction :(. OMG! What have they done to her?! :(

    The Quaker had plucked her/him, that is obvious, and I'm also pretty sure that she/he has some kind of vitamin deficiency, but only a vet can tell you exactly what.
    You must bring her to a vet, sometimes here they talk about that you can pay vet visit and split the bill and pay it over several months.
    If you still not can afford it I suggest that you let her go to someone that can. She/he will not be well taken care of in your care. And she /he deserves that after that awful last home.
    You should never own a animal if you can't afford vet care.
     
  4. camelotshadow

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    Pionus have white/horn color beaks as well as black.
    I agree a well bird exam is in order especially to protect your flock as well as determine if the feather condition has medical reasons...

    Good luck...pionus are wonderful!!!!
     
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  5. Hotpockets

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    There has been a spate of this on here lately so I'm just going to say it here: rescuing an animal you can't properly care for or rescuing animals at the expense of your existing animals is not good for anyone. Please turn the animals in to a rescue organization, or no kill shelter. There are people who care and will adopt these pets.
     
  6. Garet

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    Heck, depending on where you are, someone from the forums here might be willing to take her in and get her to a vet. Please, medical care for an animal is not something to be taken lightly. This isn't something that will just go away or fix itself.
     
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  7. iamwhoiam

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    That is so sad. Thank you for rescuing the poor Pionus. I hope all will be OK with her. It is important that you take her to the vet for a new bird check up including blood panel and cultures. She could be plucked or could have a medical issue. You may want to have her tested for PBFD. I realize you state that you are not rich (neither are most of us) but you have other birds and you really need to check the health status of this bird for the bird's sake as well as for your other birds' safety. Maybe you can work out something with the vet regarding payments.
     
  8. tka

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    She's a white cap.

    And yes, she desperately needs to see a specialist avian vet. You have no idea what's going on inside her, and she could have underlying health problems that can only be identified with a blood tests, faecal cultures etc.
     
  9. finchly

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    Vet! Where do you live? Maybe one of us can help you.
     
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    Thank you for rescuing this bird. Pi's are very nice, almost like Amazons in a way. I am very fond of them. She looks like she's been plucked by self and also appears with plucking on the crown there is no way this bird could have done that. I am willing to be possibly another bird was housed with this bird to do that.

    I would shower this bird, or mist it. Maybe make up an aloe vera spray to help atleast calm and hydrate the skin. Get some good Vit A into this bird if you can sweet potato, red palm oil to start. I am sure eventually a Vet visit for a well check blood panel and check for any other issues or infections. Nares look good, eyes look bright too.

    I am thinking an issue of stress induced plucking and possibly a bully as a cagemate.

    Good deed well done by you! :yourock:
     
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  11. camelotshadow

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    I agree...sometimes we just don't have the resources but least this bird is out of a dire situation & can find the care it needs to travel the road of recovery!
     
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    How can this bird find the care she needs if she needs a vet and her current owner either can't or won't take her to one? I'm sorry, but taking in a bird that might be ill and not taking her to a vet isn't putting her on the road to recovery at all.

    Trust me, one of my birds died because her prior owners did this exact same thing.

    Saving this bird and not getting her medical care is like pulling someone out of a freezing lake to keep them from drowning and not helping them with the hypothermia.
     
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    Perhaps there was a misunderstanding? I was not condoning no vet at all!
    All I said or meant was least the bird is out of a very bad situation & even if this person does not have the resources they can get the bird to someone who can help it. Keeping the bird in the original bad situation & not trying to help it would be worse in my humble opinion! The bird now at least has a chance & not left to drown in the freezing lake all by itself.

    I did not condone no medical care but least the bird is out of the freezing water & not dead. Maybe this person does not have a blanket but now at least there is hope they can find someone who has one & can help...That's all folks...
     
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    Vet was recommended! We can only advise & hope the right thing is done!
     
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    She was housed with a Quaker. the Quaker did the plucking.

    @AlexandreK a great deal of the feather condition *could* be lack of sunlight and poor diet. Don’t give up on the veggies and pellets - offer them different ways. veggies on a skewer, or chopped fine, warmed a little. Pellets moistened or mixed with seeds/nuts. Try a little cooked sweet potato - almost every bird likes that, as well as peas and scrambled egg.

    My WC Pi (my avatar) was also a rescue, hated any healthy food, hated pellets, hated people as a matter of fact. Now he regularly eats with me...yesterday he had a tiny bowl of salad along with 2 egg noodles for dinner. at breakfast I made a fine chop and stirred in some dry egg food and moistened Harrison’s pellets... he not only ate his but stopped me as I took one to a finch cage, and ate about a Tablespoon of the pellets from that one too. So it really can work out, over time!

    Also in the beginning I find it helpful to offer the same veggie over 2 or 3 days. Seems like it’s suspicious at first but becomes familiar enough to try.
     
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    I think it's more of a difference in opinions. If the OP was asking for help finding a vet or someone who could care for her, I'd completely agree. That's all I'm gonna say cus I have very strong opinions about people who adopt animals and don't get them medical care when they need it.
     
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    We can only provide this person with advice and hope that they follow through and take the Pionus to the vet. The feather condition could be due to plucking by the other bird but there could be other issues and the best way to determine that is to go to the vet. The fact that there are other birds in the home (even though the Pionus is being quarantined) would make it imperative, IMO, to take the Pi to the vet. At least Alexandre got the bird out of a bad situation but the next step should be a vet visit.
     
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    Yes, and I wasn't saying don't go to the vet, in case anyone thought that. The OP asked for help I was trying to respond to the request.
     
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