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Cockatiel with swollen Belly

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Please someone link her to more avian vets in her area! Please, can more people reply to this? We need to save this poor bird! Maybe someone can suggest a long-distance vet who can diagnose the illness by the photos and maybe video chat? And then tell the vet what to do?

Praying for her quick recovery!
 

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So sad. I hope she will be okay.

I wonder if a consult with Dr. Don Harris in Florida would help? He's great.

Susanne, I have learned a lot from this thread. Thanks for your knoweledge.
 

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If you want, you can email Dr Ross Perry (http://www.drrossperry.com.au) who is a fantastic bird specialist, he will do a skype or ichat video consultation. He is located in Sydney, NSW.

It looks horrible! :( I hope she will be okay, please keep us updated. :hug8::hug8:
 

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Renae good solution! If you want, you can ask around and get a few more people to help you. I know that someone here knows a lot about avian medicine and has asked questions and suggested remedies for it! Check the "My Pionous is Ill" thread - someone saved the birdies life by suggesting she should be treated for Aspergollis . Maybe ask your doctor a few more questions about what people have said on the forum! Hope you find success soon! I am so sorry you have to go through all this, I know how bad it is to have a sick bird which is difficult to treat - I lost two tiels in the process.. Wishing you the best of luck! :hug8:
 

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Beverley Stanley-Clarke
Lynfield Veterinary Clinic
122 White Swan Road
Lynfield Auckland NZ
64 9 626 4335
Fax: 64 9 626 6360
http://www.exoticvet.co.nz/
Kevin Turner
Lynfield Veterinary Clinic
122 White Swan Road Lynfield Auckland NZ
64 9626 4335
Fax: 64 9626 6360
http://www.exoticvet.co.nz/


Chris Laurenson, Normanby Road Vet Clinic, 49 Normanby Road, Mt Eden.

Ph: (09) 638 8445 email: petdoc@wave .co.nz

Palmerston North

Massey University Veterinary Clinic, Tennant Dve, Palmerston North

Phone: 06 350 5329

Web Site: http://vethospital.massey.ac.nz/default.asp

Recommended Vet: Bret Gartrell

Hope this also helps you...:hug8:
 

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Poor baby,I hope she will be ok.
 

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Thank You All.

Our Avian Vet did look at this last week. He does not understand why it was passed over to us. That is to be sorted out.

His diagnosis is Hernia and Xanthoma.
He decided she needs to loose weight, before he will operate.
In herself she seems to be settling in and shows no sign of distress.
 

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Thank You All.

Our Avian Vet did look at this last week. He does not understand why it was passed over to us. That is to be sorted out.

His diagnosis is Hernia and Xanthoma.
He decided she needs to loose weight, before he will operate.
In herself she seems to be settling in and shows no sign of distress.
YOU did a GREAT job helping her! Give yourself a pat on your back! And so glad to know your vet handled the situation! I'm sure the little baby will recover fully soon!

Best of luck! :hug8:
 

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His diagnosis is Hernia and Xanthoma.
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I don't have pix's of the above. Those things happened before I started digitally documenting everything. It's not a hernia. A hernia would be a soft pocket of flesh thru the abdominal wall, and is not repairable. It is not an Xanthoma because the skin is not weeping a clear plasma, and if it was this it is fatal. Most Xanthomas are on the wing, and when it happens the wings have to be amuputated in order to save the bird.

He decided she needs to loose weight, before he will operate.


If there is fluid accumulation in the abdominal cavity this would have to be removed because this makes up a large part of the weight. The keelbone has to be cheeked to determine it the bird is overweight or underweight.

If it is not peritonitus, one other thing is it could be fatty liver, which the layer of fat showing below the skin would get thicker and darker the worse the problem is. The birds keelbone would be well padded on either side in the early stage, and very sharp in the advanced stages.
 

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This is edited reply from A.V.

Quote: 'This is not an egg peritonitis I see them all the time. This is a hernia that may well have been caused by hormonal problems due to a poor diet rich in fats' Quote '
Your bird is not thin with a prominent keel bone nor is the distention because of abdominal foreign body eg egg.
The bird is not lethargic.
It does not resemble a true egg peritonitis in the least as shown in the picture.
The xanthomatous skin changes are a completely different thing.'

So there we have it for now. I will update later.
 

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Susanne, excellent thread, very educational. Thank you!

And Clive, thank you for bringing this to our attention. The folks on this site really care for all birds. A good place to get advice overall.
 

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Being that Susanne has raised hundreds of cockatiels, maybe more, for decades, and documents and researches more than anyone I have ever met, I would take her advice any day. Good luck.
 

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Clive, you'll have to tell your vet I strongly disagree with what he/she is saying. it is NOT a hernia and the yellow IS yolk matter that the body is trying to excete by any way it can to get rid of it. tell you vet that jusy because it does not look like common peritonitis, which they have probably only seen in very early stages, that does not mean that this is what it is not.
 

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I've been following this thread and don't know much but when I first saw the pictures, I thought that it looked like fat pads. Galahs are really prone to this as are Ekkies. Could this possibly be what we are seeing?
 

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I disagree too..it is not a hernia...sorry Suxanne has even advised avian vets...they call her all the time...
 

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Jen...yes this does look very similar to fat, just the color is wrong. Fat is a paler color.

The veins showing thru the skin are a concern though because if they get convulated (swollen) they can absorb bacteria from the abdominal cavity and cause a systemic infection.

As to this hen she is not a textbook example of peritonitis. She is an example of it in the extreme, which is rarely seen because the hen would have died, and the owner would have assumed it died of egg-binding, and not had a vet do a necropasy...therefore, such hens in this advanced state are not seen by vets, and if not, then they in turn do not recognize it for what it is.
 
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I wonder if the the tiel is still alive! I think Susanne has given excellent advice, but maybe the vet thinks otherwise. It will be sad to see a certified doctor wrongly diagnose a bird even after being told what the potential illness may be.

Whatever it may be, finally that bird is a living animal! I hope the tiel gets well soon!:hug8:
 
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