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Advice- 3 month (15 week) old Macaw **Sad Update**

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So sorry sweetie :sorrow:
 

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How very, very sad! This wont be the first time, and it certainly won't be the last that money (greed) takes precedence over proper care for sentient beings! :shakehead:

Be happy that Koko is in a better place now! God Bless you all! :sorrow:
 

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- I feel raising them through the weaning age is the breeders job and responsibly.

She somewhat fell into our lap. the store was tired of housing her for free while the neighbor looked for someone else to take her. they refused to take her back for a refund.

So we took her and did our best by her. our best wasn't good enough. but I don't know if at that point anyone'seen best could have saved her.

It is the breeders responsibility but once the store took Koko it was there responsibilty & theres alone. They had a unweaned bird to feed & should of made sure it was done right & continued until she was fully weaned.
The woman should have never been allowed to take home the unweaned bird.

She ran into trouble because the bird was unweaned. The bird was the stores responsibility as it was in there possession & they sold it. It's negligence because selling birds is the nature of there business & they failed to sell a healthy weaned bird. When someone sells an unweaned bird its there responsibility to know how to do it right. The store took a big monetary hit but Koko had alot of suffering & lost her life because they didn;t know how to care for the unweaned bird.
 
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Once the store took Koko it was there responsibilty & theres alone. They had a unweaned bird to feed & should of made sure it was done right & continued until she was fully weaned.
The woman should have never been allowed to take home the unweaned bird.


I haven't read the California law. However it is my understanding that a person must be certified before he/she can take on an a unweened bird. It is part of the training that would require those personal to know what they are doing. It's getting hard for me to stay of my soapbox. We should probably start a new thread is the controversial topics forum if we wish to continue this. But I've said pretty much all I have to say, that I haven't said in other post already.
 

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I haven't read the California law. However it is my understanding that a person must be certified before he/she can take on an a unweened bird. It is part of the training that would require those personal to know what they are doing. It's getting hard for me to stay of my soapbox. We should probably start a new thread is the controversial topics forum if we wish to continue this. But I've said pretty much all I have to say, that I haven't said in other post already.
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I believe alaska bars anyone from taking an unweaned bird however it's not actively informed. there are very little resources for parrot owners in the way of vet car and rescues.

Few breeders will ship to Alaska for fear of the bird not surviving the trip.

We are in Nevada however- though we are from Alaska initially .
 

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Sorry, I too am hurting for Koko & can't imagine your loss...

I am sorry this happened to you but cherish those few days with your precious angel.

You will make a great parront someday & I hopefully in the near future the best bird flies into your heart & you all have a long happy life together.

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I just wanted to do one final update:

They did do that whatever it was called. Bird autopsy. They found something interesting- a web of connective tissue pulling things tightly together. The tissue pulled on the esophagus and crop, likely making it hard to swallow and making her feel full long before she was. Tissue also surrounded the heart and portions of the digestive organs.

Authorization came too late for them to get accurate testing for infection but what they could test for has been coming back clear. Even when hatched, this was not a healthy bird. I did sign Koko's body over to the vet, she is sending her to a colleague at some college who is going to do further tests and look into exactly what was going on with her. At this point, it is more for scientific knowledge then anything as our vet hadn't seen anything like that before. She said if she had to guess, the bird was very much inbred and came from a poor line but it could also just as likely be a genetic fluke. I may or may not be updated on their findings. With this new knowledge we have a measure of peace.

From hatching, Koko didn't even have a chance. The deck was stacked against her. We hope that she felt our love in her short time with us, and that we gave her some light in what had to have been a very dark and uncomfortable life.

I just wanted to let you all know what was found, as you all had been so kind as to advise me, comfort me and sit with me while we tried the best we could. My daughter still is asking 'where's koko?' so that sucks, but time will help us heal and move on.

Again, that you all for everything, every bit of advise, every well wish, every positive thought and prayer.
 

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Somehow I missed this thread. So sorry for your loss.
 

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So sorry for your loss
 

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I hope this gives you some closure. Unfortunately this is a BIG reason for not buying an unweaned bird that a lot of people don't think of. By the time the bird is old enough to be fully weaned, a good number of birds with birth defects will have already died of those defects. Unweaned birds still have not gone through the stress of weaning and the associated physiological changes that could bring about symptoms of a larger problem. Of course, you didn't really have any choice in the matter since you were just doing a good deed. Things like this can be the result of inbreeding, but I'm more inclined to think it was probably just one of those random bad luck things that sometimes happens even from healthy parents with a history of producing healthy chicks. It would be interesting to know if the chick was parent incubated or artificially incubated.
 

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Interesting & glad they did the exploratory as there can be some form of closure.

I just wonder how much the malnutrition could have led to improper development of the organs but the tissue?

Gosh poor Koko may have not had a chance but at least she knew love in her short life.:sadhug2:

When I was looking for a RBC baby I came across a breeder who had one chick parent hatched
& 2 had to be incubated as parents started messing w eggs.

The larger slightly older female was taken & there were 2 boys. The last one remaining was much smaller & odd looking to me sort of stunted. big head. I debated & questioned for about a month watching the progress of the chick. She told me it was eating & gaining weight & some are slower but catch up. Told me the small age hatch difference was the reason.
I just did not have a good feeling & finally she got upset at all my questions & refused to sell me the bird anyway so guess it was for the best.

I did find an adult RBC but wonder what happened to that chick. I think it did have something to do with the incubation & feeding from day 1.

I doubt this breeder who "bred" Koko would incubate an egg & feed it from day 1 but it owuld make things harder on the development of the chick.

 
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i am very sorry for your loss
 
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