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What difficult news to hear... Personally, I think you should find another galah breeder. If you were to get another bird from Bisou's breeder, would it be out of the same parents? Even if it were, that doesn't mean it would have the same disorder. I assume this pair has produced many chicks, and the rest of them have been healthy, or he wouldn't have kept them together. Is he the breeder? If he isn't, can he find out this information for you? These are questions I'd ask before making a knee-jerk decision. As for a severe macaw, they tend to be one person birds with very "nippy" reputations. Macaws in general are very "beaky" compared to cockatoos, and severe's are even more so. If you aren't comfortable with this, don't try to take one on. If you first chose a galah, I don't think a severe will be a suitable match for the same criteria.
 

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Thank you “Crazybirdchick” I looked up the recommendation of the breeder and their Rb2’s are $1,000 more than I was paying. I was paying$2,500. I would go up some, but I just can’t afford another $1,000.
I requested my deposit back and hope he makes that process easy.
If hawk1227 knows of any Rose Breasted Cockatoo’s in Michigan please let me know.

There was actually two, at avian store that were rescues. Had previous owners, one was around 4 the other around 7 years old. One was a bit timid and scared the other was a sweety. They both lived together. Both were being sold for $1500 including their cages! Completely vet checked.
this was a little over 3 weeks back. So I have not been there since.
But going to pop in there today anyway and see if that macaw was still there. This time not leave my phone behind and take some pictures.
 

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I have been up studying about other parrots and came across Severe macaw. Does anyone have an opinion on this bird ? I’m looking for a medium size parrot, one that is affectionate , doesn’t bond to just one person , more a family bird and not nippy . Any ideas?
Well all birds can be well bonded. All birds are capable of being nippy, and all birds are capable of jealousy. That being that they have a favorite person, or as some say, a one person bird.
Having had 39 parrots in 45 years, ( 13 mine , 26 temporary as they were rescues as part of adoption center fosterer and rescuer. And of them, dealt with about 14 different types/ spieces)
It's basically the personality of the bird, not spieces or type per se that's better than the other. Some have reputations true, but I take that with a grain of sand...all spieces and types will perfectly bond and not be nippy. It's all in what you feel comfortable with, how much your willing to put into it, for example, if big beaks make you nervous or scared don't get one then with big beak, plain and simple.
Because birds pick up on fear, if you can't trust bird, guaranteed the bird won't trust you or fully bond.
A recommendation based on your fear level and concerns.....would be a tag. Timnah African grey. Again, that's just my recommendation, and your free to make your own choice.
 

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I’m appreciating all the advice out there. It really helps . Thank you
 

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Like BirdTricks or not this video may help with perspective of cockatoos.

 

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Very interesting. I can tell she really is scared of u2’s. It’s interesting to see how her Galah is getting upset , but it’s really hard to read. What I have been realizing is ever bird has issues. Whichfo I choose? One is too dependent, one breed to independence, one too one person oriented , one too Affectionate, the other doesn’t like to be petted much like a ACG. One is neurotic like cockatoos etc. what do I do? I’m at a loss and with each message I see more disheartened about being able to find a breed I can live with.
 

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I empathise with everything you have been going through, specifically the loss of your expected baby. They are all so beautiful and it is difficult to select. There will never be a bird that will fit any of the boxes absolutely.

Some of the more popular birds like cockatiels and budgies are popular because of their adaptability to life with humans. Many species will have some bad bird moments. If it isn't emotional outbursts through biting it can be ear piecing contact calls, like sun conures. All birds will have pros and cons. Maybe a cockatiel seems too small (a con?) but their personality and gregarious nature makes them easier in families (a pro!).

I am not sure if lists help you, but you could try and list out pros and cons and it may help you. What is it that you think is a con in the bird: size, temperament, bonding, noise? I think an independent bird will always be the best option. We live human lives and there are times we can't be home, maybe your child has a doctor's appointment or family holidays? You want a bird that can handle the occasional absence and will play with their toys independently.

Sexual maturity is a serious consideration. Baby birds are the cutest little birbs, we all LOVE them, they do come with challenges. A sexually mature bird will not need to use your children or you as an emotional punching bag as they figure out who they are. A bird in puberty is like a teenager, but with a beak and WILL do what they want...they do not care about your opinions on how they should behave themselves--

No one hear can tell you what to do. We can only offer our advice and hope that it helps guide you to a sensible choice for your family.
 

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What do you think of putting a baby cockatiel together with my baby rose breast if I choose that species ? I was told if I had two hand fed babies put together immediately it would be best for both birds and they should both still be great pets? Having each other to be with but still having our family for idles of attention and love. I was originally under the impression that two birds would bond and not want to be with me , but maybe I’m wrong with that and both birds would be emotionally happier together. Still being sweet with me s d my family.
I would buy a cockatiel and bring it home the exact time I would bring home my rosy. That way there would be no territorial issues as both would be new to the environment and grow up together .
 

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I think your rose-breasted would kill your cockatiel. The territorial issue would happen when they age.
 

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I spoke with a women that breeds them and she has had many breeding pairs . She is the breeder at Quest Haven Pets
And she also wrote the book “ A Guide to Owning Fully Flighted Birds”. She says today when I spoke to her that if I had a cockatiel or larger parakeet and bright them home at the same time , same day as hand fed babies they would be good friends and avoid a lot of neurotic and behavioral issues with my rosy looking to me for 100% of everything. It was upon her strong recommendation that I get a second bird ideally a cockatiel or large parakeet to bring them home together. I always thought it wasn’t a good idea, but she feels it’s really important after breeding many Cockatoo’s.
 

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This sounds like a bit of rubbish to me. First problem is beak size... 1 misunderstanding between the two of them and you can have a dead cockatiel. Don't fool yourself that they will never have a tiff.

Birds that are raised together can definitely fight. It is actually common behaviour for siblings birds to fight each other away when they reach sexual maturity.

The Parrot to Human Bond | Blanchard | AFA Watchbird

Socialisation Tactics of the Spectacled Parrotlet (Forpus conspicillatus) on JSTOR

I have contacted Quest Haven Pets asking for clarification. I am shocked that this information was promoted. It is very possible that there was simply a misunderstanding. I keep my birds in the same room, but they are all caged and can't interact with each other whilst in there. It is only in the common play area I allow physical socialisation and I regulate who is out together to create a peaceful atmosphere. In my office (which is really the bird room now.. they are taking over), they can chatter with each other and see each other. It is possible the Quest Haven person meant this type of arrangement.

Being a breeder doesn't mean you are an expert. There are respected breeders and their advice is greatly trusted. Simply being a breeder does not mean you are qualified in anything.
 

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I’m glad you contacted her. She definitely said best if two babies were put together right away. That they would get along best if both brought to my home the same day , no territorial issues then. They could live together in an aviary or just fly in my home. She was quite adamant about one not being in it’s cage before the other. Both coming together as handfed babies to my home at the same time .
She has extensive knowledge and she was incredibly helpful and patient with all my questions. If I misunderstood her somehow , I definitely want to know
 

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So is that because she pulls and handfeeds them, so they are imprinted on a human but putting them with a young bird makes them a little more bird-like? Or what. I don’t get the reasoning. I’ve never, ever heard of doing thiis.

I have cockatiels, and they. Don’t do well with larger and more aggressive birds. They don’t even like to be around loud bigger birds. If I were going to do that, I’d just get 2 cockatiels to raise together, or 2 toos.

Christina, I can’t remember. Have you visited with some of the species you are considering?
 

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Everyone has their own beliefs or ways on how birds should be raised... Its been years but I have spoken with Quest Havens owner a few times, she is very knowledgeable about birds and really loves/cares about her personal and breeder birds. If I were you, I would stick with one bird and try not to baby it so much when its young. Or talk to her and/or others about how to raise an independent parrot.
 

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Disregard what she said/meant. Housing two species of birds in one cage is not ever recommended.

There are some species that are known to coexist well (read: ignore each other ) in large aviaries, however a precursory google search will yield a list almost exclusively of compatible finches with a note that budgies may coexist with specific finches if the aviary is large enough. Large spaces to avoid each other and keep territory disputes to a minimum, places to hide, and similarly sized birds are key to a successful aviary.

You can’t replicate that in a cage and you definitely cannot expect two territorial, hormonal, pubescent inter-species birds to love each other so much they won’t fight. That is not a thing even with two birds of the exact same species.
 

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I understand this what you said. Strange thing is in Australia there was a woman who had 5 female and 6 male cockatiel in an aviary with a male Galah and one of them bred and had the first ever galah last cockatiel baby. Please don’t think I want to breed them only that they seemed to co exist naturally in the aviary. Anyway, I understand what everyone is saying, she felt that this way the birds would be happier and
Not have so many behavioral issues .
 

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I want to say that she said that they could live together in an aviary . She believes cages aren’t big enough and the aviary gives them more room to fly.
Maybe this makes more sense ?
 

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I think you may be over-analyzing and looking for a perfect fit, assuming that anything less than a perfect fit won't work. The reality is that you'll get to know each other (just like with another person or any other pet), you'll learn what your bird needs and you'll respect it and build a relationship based on your mutual understandings. Any bird is going to have moments when you need to "accommodate" them. We make allowances for spouses, children, dogs, cats... any bird you get will be the same. Two birds will appreciate each other even if they can't be physically together. I wouldn't assume you could keep them together, but know that they'll talk back and forth with each other. As for bird tricks - I wouldn't put a lot of stock in what they say, personally. My own cockatoo can sometimes be a real brat to my husband (but she also likes him at other times), but I can definitely tell you the when and why - and I can easily see it coming (though he doesn't see it as easily). I do agree that some species are easier to read (amazons, macaws, for instance). If I were ever going to get another bird, I'd easily consider another cockatoo, and that's after having Beaker for 29 years. I can't think of a better endorsement than that!
 

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I found this , such sort of back ups what the breeder said to me about introducing two birds . I know it’s bird trucks, but it’s still interesting .
 
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